After maybe 6 years hanging around this site, I finally checked out the forum. Well people who blog, the forum is a catacomb of buried posts and unanswered replies scattered across many years. To answer my own question, those who blog check in more frequently and actually bother to reply; subjects are the same and many contributors too but no one seems to go back after they post on the Forum. One up for Blogs
After maybe 6 years hanging around this site, I finally checked out the forum. Well people who blog, the forum is a catacomb of buried posts and unanswered replies scattered across many years. To answer my own question, those who blog check in more frequently and actually bother to reply; subjects are the same and many contributors too but no one seems to go back after they post on the Forum. One up for Blogs
Jag those type of generalizations are based solely on your perspective alone. What evidence do you have that these online sites promote infidelity? Most people here are single and seeking the same but in my experience even married men declare who and what they are (and get instantly deleted by me). However I have seen zero evidence to substantiate your claims about married or younger, single women.
All you need to do is check out most,if not all,of the profiles of the girls that match my search criterea or even those with a lower age limit.
The thing that they have in common is that under the search heading of relationship status it says 'no preference' or seperated/divorced etc etc but very rarely,if ever,do they ever say single in isolation.
It doesn't take a genius to realise that if a married bloke is looking for way out of a marriage then he's going to take the terms seperated/divorced or no preference,in a younger,single girl's search criterea,at face value.I know I would.
The rule on dating sites should be that single young women's profiles are blocked from being able to put no preference or seperated/divorced into their search criterea.In which case I wouldn't at all surprised if those single girls are so keen on taking someone else's husband off her that they'd then describe themselves as married/seperated/divorced just to keep that option open.
Quoting helena2006:
Jag those type of generalizations are based solely on your perspective alone. What evidence do you have that these online sites promote infidelity? Most people here are single and seeking the same but in my experience even married men declare who and what they are (and get instantly deleted by me). However I have seen zero evidence to substantiate your claims about married or younger, single women.
All you need to do is check out most,if not all,of the profiles of the girls that match my search criterea or even those with a lower age limit.
The thing that they have in common is that under the search heading of relationship status it says 'no preference' or seperated/divorced etc etc but very rarely,if ever,do they ever say single in isolation.
It doesn't take a genius to realise that if a married bloke is looking for way out of a marriage then he's going to take the terms seperated/divorced or no preference,in a younger,single girl's search criterea,at face value.I know I would.
The rule on dating sites should be that single young women's profiles are blocked from being able to put no preference or seperated/divorced into their search criterea.In which case I wouldn't at all surprised if those single girls are so keen on taking someone else's husband off her that they'd then describe themselves as married/seperated/divorced just to keep that option open.
Okay while I am very sick of seeing my own picture here when so many others "check us out", I tried to chat online and it was like a tomb. Forget the forum and chat here people, it is a lot of fun and very productive as far as contacts go.
Okay while I am very sick of seeing my own picture here when so many others "check us out", I tried to chat online and it was like a tomb. Forget the forum and chat here people, it is a lot of fun and very productive as far as contacts go.
Jag those type of generalizations are based solely on your perspective alone. What evidence do you have that these online sites promote infidelity? Most people here are single and seeking the same but in my experience even married men declare who and what they are (and get instantly deleted by me). However I have seen zero evidence to substantiate your claims about married or younger, single women.
Jag those type of generalizations are based solely on your perspective alone. What evidence do you have that these online sites promote infidelity? Most people here are single and seeking the same but in my experience even married men declare who and what they are (and get instantly deleted by me). However I have seen zero evidence to substantiate your claims about married or younger, single women.
You proved nothing my love Jag except that you are able to regurgitate the same old same old. You are the one who has moved nowhere, who has found no one and who still refuses to recognize the reasons why. Many of us have politely tried to explain life in the 21st century to you but it does not get through for some reason. You are a step backwards in the life of women
Sorry helena but to put it simply it's just that I've never been able to undertsand,how it is,that as a single bloke,at a party or wherever,and now on dating sites,the single available girls are usually more interested in the married (and/or seperated/divorced blokes) than me and,as I've said, how it seems like the younger girls' fathers and society in general would be more bothered about me going after their daughters than their wives,and unfortunately I never will understand it.
Quoting helena2006:
You proved nothing my love Jag except that you are able to regurgitate the same old same old. You are the one who has moved nowhere, who has found no one and who still refuses to recognize the reasons why. Many of us have politely tried to explain life in the 21st century to you but it does not get through for some reason. You are a step backwards in the life of women
Sorry helena but to put it simply it's just that I've never been able to undertsand,how it is,that as a single bloke,at a party or wherever,and now on dating sites,the single available girls are usually more interested in the married (and/or seperated/divorced blokes) than me and,as I've said, how it seems like the younger girls' fathers and society in general would be more bothered about me going after their daughters than their wives,and unfortunately I never will understand it.
You proved nothing my love Jag except that you are able to regurgitate the same old same old. You are the one who has moved nowhere, who has found no one and who still refuses to recognize the reasons why. Many of us have politely tried to explain life in the 21st century to you but it does not get through for some reason. You are a step backwards in the life of women
You proved nothing my love Jag except that you are able to regurgitate the same old same old. You are the one who has moved nowhere, who has found no one and who still refuses to recognize the reasons why. Many of us have politely tried to explain life in the 21st century to you but it does not get through for some reason. You are a step backwards in the life of women
Helena exactly where's the connection,in what I'm saying with 'dubious Victorian morals'.From my point of view everything that 'women now have' just seems to be carte blanche for single girls to go out looking for a married/seperated/divorced bloke.In other words another woman's husband and a homewreckers' and an adulterers charter.
For 'rights and freedoms' read not ever knowing from one day to the next wether it's going to be their marriage and home that gets wrecked by one of those homewrecking girls.
While for some single blokes those 'rights and freedoms' mean being left on the shelf while those married/seperated/divorced blokes get the single girls to add to their extended families.
If you want to add to that the fact that I'm not a believer in the feminist cause and that I believe it's brought a lot more heartache to many women than it's ever done any good for them,such as those that believe in all the bull contained in the idea of putting the idea of career ahead of having a family while they are young enough to do it,and/or same age or OW/YM relationships,that's up to you and it's no reason why I should change my mind on the subject.
But for all the girls out there that want to follow your ideas I think Demi Moore's failed relationships say it all.Which contrasts with the,in your view,so called 'Victorian' type such as the example of Joe and Nicola Philpot etc.Although,just as in that example,yet again,why does it always have to be the bloke who's already had his chances in life who gets the girl while there's single blokes out there who'll probably die alone and childless through no fault of their own.
The fact is her example just proves that your hypocritical argument is more about the rights and freedoms of married/seperated/divorced blokes,than those of girls like her who seem happy enough with the type of life which you would view as Victorian in my case being a single bloke,but obviously not when it's a married/seperated/divorced bloke those girls choose by their own free will to do it with.
Quoting helena2006:
Yes exactly. I have previously accused our "friend" of having the dubious morals of a Victorian. We women have come a long way since then and have fought hard for everything we now have. I LOVE being a woman in the 21st century and acknowledge and respect the women who obtained the rights and freedoms I have. He has blinkers on and cannot see that a happier woman makes a happier wife and soulmate. Who wants to be a drudge for a Victorian master?
Quoting helena2006:
Yes exactly. I have previously accused our "friend" of having the dubious morals of a Victorian. We women have come a long way since then and have fought hard for everything we now have. I LOVE being a woman in the 21st century and acknowledge and respect the women who obtained the rights and freedoms I have. He has blinkers on and cannot see that a happier woman makes a happier wife and soulmate. Who wants to be a drudge for a Victorian master?
Helena exactly where's the connection,in what I'm saying with 'dubious Victorian morals'.From my point of view everything that 'women now have' just seems to be carte blanche for single girls to go out looking for a married/seperated/divorced bloke.In other words another woman's husband and a homewreckers' and an adulterers charter.
For 'rights and freedoms' read not ever knowing from one day to the next wether it's going to be their marriage and home that gets wrecked by one of those homewrecking girls.
While for some single blokes those 'rights and freedoms' mean being left on the shelf while those married/seperated/divorced blokes get the single girls to add to their extended families.
If you want to add to that the fact that I'm not a believer in the feminist cause and that I believe it's brought a lot more heartache to many women than it's ever done any good for them,such as those that believe in all the bull contained in the idea of putting the idea of career ahead of having a family while they are young enough to do it,and/or same age or OW/YM relationships,that's up to you and it's no reason why I should change my mind on the subject.
But for all the girls out there that want to follow your ideas I think Demi Moore's failed relationships say it all.Which contrasts with the,in your view,so called 'Victorian' type such as the example of Joe and Nicola Philpot etc.Although,just as in that example,yet again,why does it always have to be the bloke who's already had his chances in life who gets the girl while there's single blokes out there who'll probably die alone and childless through no fault of their own.
The fact is her example just proves that your hypocritical argument is more about the rights and freedoms of married/seperated/divorced blokes,than those of girls like her who seem happy enough with the type of life which you would view as Victorian in my case being a single bloke,but obviously not when it's a married/seperated/divorced bloke those girls choose by their own free will to do it with.
Yes exactly. I have previously accused our "friend" of having the dubious morals of a Victorian. We women have come a long way since then and have fought hard for everything we now have. I LOVE being a woman in the 21st century and acknowledge and respect the women who obtained the rights and freedoms I have. He has blinkers on and cannot see that a happier woman makes a happier wife and soulmate. Who wants to be a drudge for a Victorian master?
Yes exactly. I have previously accused our "friend" of having the dubious morals of a Victorian. We women have come a long way since then and have fought hard for everything we now have. I LOVE being a woman in the 21st century and acknowledge and respect the women who obtained the rights and freedoms I have. He has blinkers on and cannot see that a happier woman makes a happier wife and soulmate. Who wants to be a drudge for a Victorian master?
Blimey litenbrite I'd have given some of the bull I've seen on here the benefit of the doubt but that lot really does get top prize in hypocricy and bovine excreta.The fact is with all those so called 'women's rights' nothing's changed and it has nothing whatsoever to do with younger women looking for 'protection' with an older man and never has.It's a simple case of single women choosing married/seperated/divorced blokes over single ones and often wrecking a home in the process.
But hypocricy doesn't come much more hypocritical than being told that it's me who's doing something wrong in the situation whereby single blokes get left on the shelf by single girls while married/seperated/divorced blokes are more in demand by them and in which society seems to think that situation is ok.
The same type of hypocricy and double standards apply,in the case of societal views,concerning single middle aged blokes,in which it's seen as unacceptable for single blokes to be looking for a much younger western wife and at best should be banished to looking for a wife from the third world or,at worst, have to take on someone's old dumped wife,while married/seperated/divorced blokes get another chance to have another family with a younger single girl.
Then to add insult to injury you say that's all my fault.
Blimey litenbrite I'd have given some of the bull I've seen on here the benefit of the doubt but that lot really does get top prize in hypocricy and bovine excreta.The fact is with all those so called 'women's rights' nothing's changed and it has nothing whatsoever to do with younger women looking for 'protection' with an older man and never has.It's a simple case of single women choosing married/seperated/divorced blokes over single ones and often wrecking a home in the process.
But hypocricy doesn't come much more hypocritical than being told that it's me who's doing something wrong in the situation whereby single blokes get left on the shelf by single girls while married/seperated/divorced blokes are more in demand by them and in which society seems to think that situation is ok.
The same type of hypocricy and double standards apply,in the case of societal views,concerning single middle aged blokes,in which it's seen as unacceptable for single blokes to be looking for a much younger western wife and at best should be banished to looking for a wife from the third world or,at worst, have to take on someone's old dumped wife,while married/seperated/divorced blokes get another chance to have another family with a younger single girl.
Then to add insult to injury you say that's all my fault.
Helena it is because he has never had anyone that fits his criteria, forced to live a moral life with his Mum, and basicly must be sexualy frustrated. Realises he gets no satisfaction so why should anyone else and get away with it. and as you get older it gets scaryier because you havnt been able to express anything and make the criteria even more difficult so its a self imposed outcome, because how you think and feel today is what you you will get tommorow. It gets even worse as time goes on. and so he has to find a good excuse as to why he hasn't found a successful relationship, [Blaming feels better than admitting it could be your own fault] Frustration has to come out somehow and its easier to live with if you blame everyone else's morals than to admit you could have done something different. So he then has to vent his woe's over and over. Why should society look down on him for wanting a very young woman, So he complains because it was always allright in the eyes of society before women had any rights or a voice. and he still wants it to be that way. In earlier days it was neccessary for a woman to have the protection of a man so they often Married older men because of that. The pendulam has swung in the other direction. Jag just hasnt accepted that yet. But there is still no need for him to insult us, and when he does that I will give him back as good as he gives [or even worse] as we both have tried helping him. He doesn't want to listen to anything that actualy might work and bring him happiness, because he would then have nothing to moan about.:)
Helena it is because he has never had anyone that fits his criteria, forced to live a moral life with his Mum, and basicly must be sexualy frustrated. Realises he gets no satisfaction so why should anyone else and get away with it. and as you get older it gets scaryier because you havnt been able to express anything and make the criteria even more difficult so its a self imposed outcome, because how you think and feel today is what you you will get tommorow. It gets even worse as time goes on. and so he has to find a good excuse as to why he hasn't found a successful relationship, [Blaming feels better than admitting it could be your own fault] Frustration has to come out somehow and its easier to live with if you blame everyone else's morals than to admit you could have done something different. So he then has to vent his woe's over and over. Why should society look down on him for wanting a very young woman, So he complains because it was always allright in the eyes of society before women had any rights or a voice. and he still wants it to be that way. In earlier days it was neccessary for a woman to have the protection of a man so they often Married older men because of that. The pendulam has swung in the other direction. Jag just hasnt accepted that yet. But there is still no need for him to insult us, and when he does that I will give him back as good as he gives [or even worse] as we both have tried helping him. He doesn't want to listen to anything that actualy might work and bring him happiness, because he would then have nothing to moan about.:)
Helena in the case of the way that society looks on single blokes still looking for a (hopefully much) younger (western) wife and the way in which those same single blokes have to compete with (and often lose out to married/seperated/divorced blokes to get one) the question is who's dissing who ?.
Helena in the case of the way that society looks on single blokes still looking for a (hopefully much) younger (western) wife and the way in which those same single blokes have to compete with (and often lose out to married/seperated/divorced blokes to get one) the question is who's dissing who ?.
U were rite LTB, same old same old. Every generation has a sector that goes against the norm whether radical left, radical right, promiscuous etc. - who cares? We all make up modern society and in the West we can live according to our beliefs so why should our "friend" continue to keep dissing the morals of others?
U were rite LTB, same old same old. Every generation has a sector that goes against the norm whether radical left, radical right, promiscuous etc. - who cares? We all make up modern society and in the West we can live according to our beliefs so why should our "friend" continue to keep dissing the morals of others?
Thanks Helena for trying to explain what's going on out there.
However I don't consider it really to be an issue of extremes or 'in between' at all when the issue is really one of just right and wrong.
Firstly those ideas of pointless promiscuous relationships are as relevant today as in the 1960's.However there's 'also',always,been the type of girls who want to get involved in a more serious type of relationship and take it to it's logical natural conclusion and that's the type of girl who I'm looking for.The problem for me is that so are many other blokes.
However the fact is that as a single bloke,who's still waiting for a chance of having a wife and family with a single girl,I'm having to compete with married/seperated/divorced blokes,for those girls.Which is simply wrong not 'in between' as you say.
In addition to that is the fact that society seems to view what I'm looking for as wrong but it doesn't seem to view it wrong to the same degree in the case of when it's married/seperated/divorced blokes who get those girls instead to the point where,as I've said,society seems to consider it no big deal for a married/seperated,divorced bloke to go for a younger single girl of the type I'm looking for and/or if I went for another bloke's wife so long as she is the same or close age as myself.
However society does seem to have a problem in the case of an older single bloke looking for a younger single girl to have a family with.Even,as I've said,to the point where it seems to me that many fathers out there would be more upset about a single middle aged bloke going for their teenaged daughter than if that bloke had gone for his wife instead.
That's not 'in between' that's wrong in addition to which it's just hypocricy.
Quoting helena2006:
LTB you have succintly identified why he does not receive messages/hits. Those younger people whose morals he hates are modern society and they behave no differently than anyone else. Besides you cannot ever group a single sector of society like that and speak in generalities. In the Swinging 60's there was major promiscuity that followed accessibility to the PILL. There have always been extremes in behaviour and yet there is me and the majority just somewhere in between.
Quoting helena2006:
LTB you have succintly identified why he does not receive messages/hits. Those younger people whose morals he hates are modern society and they behave no differently than anyone else. Besides you cannot ever group a single sector of society like that and speak in generalities. In the Swinging 60's there was major promiscuity that followed accessibility to the PILL. There have always been extremes in behaviour and yet there is me and the majority just somewhere in between.
Thanks Helena for trying to explain what's going on out there.
However I don't consider it really to be an issue of extremes or 'in between' at all when the issue is really one of just right and wrong.
Firstly those ideas of pointless promiscuous relationships are as relevant today as in the 1960's.However there's 'also',always,been the type of girls who want to get involved in a more serious type of relationship and take it to it's logical natural conclusion and that's the type of girl who I'm looking for.The problem for me is that so are many other blokes.
However the fact is that as a single bloke,who's still waiting for a chance of having a wife and family with a single girl,I'm having to compete with married/seperated/divorced blokes,for those girls.Which is simply wrong not 'in between' as you say.
In addition to that is the fact that society seems to view what I'm looking for as wrong but it doesn't seem to view it wrong to the same degree in the case of when it's married/seperated/divorced blokes who get those girls instead to the point where,as I've said,society seems to consider it no big deal for a married/seperated,divorced bloke to go for a younger single girl of the type I'm looking for and/or if I went for another bloke's wife so long as she is the same or close age as myself.
However society does seem to have a problem in the case of an older single bloke looking for a younger single girl to have a family with.Even,as I've said,to the point where it seems to me that many fathers out there would be more upset about a single middle aged bloke going for their teenaged daughter than if that bloke had gone for his wife instead.
That's not 'in between' that's wrong in addition to which it's just hypocricy.
LTB you have succintly identified why he does not receive messages/hits. Those younger people whose morals he hates are modern society and they behave no differently than anyone else. Besides you cannot ever group a single sector of society like that and speak in generalities. In the Swinging 60's there was major promiscuity that followed accessibility to the PILL. There have always been extremes in behaviour and yet there is me and the majority just somewhere in between.
LTB you have succintly identified why he does not receive messages/hits. Those younger people whose morals he hates are modern society and they behave no differently than anyone else. Besides you cannot ever group a single sector of society like that and speak in generalities. In the Swinging 60's there was major promiscuity that followed accessibility to the PILL. There have always been extremes in behaviour and yet there is me and the majority just somewhere in between.
litenbrite it's not a question or an issue of wether anyone finds all that offputting it's a question and an issue of wether what I've said is incorrect or innacurate regarding any of those observations concerning society.
But I'm not surprised that most girls would be put off by anyone who complains about the morals of modern society.
litenbrite it's not a question or an issue of wether anyone finds all that offputting it's a question and an issue of wether what I've said is incorrect or innacurate regarding any of those observations concerning society.
But I'm not surprised that most girls would be put off by anyone who complains about the morals of modern society.
Well Helena, when he gets verbal diarrhoea I dont bother reading it. Lol! because I already know its the same as the one written 2 years ago. And one day I hope that he realises that all those complaints would be very off putting to any young woman. and we know that don't we because we can still remember being young women and know what puts them off.
Well Helena, when he gets verbal diarrhoea I dont bother reading it. Lol! because I already know its the same as the one written 2 years ago. And one day I hope that he realises that all those complaints would be very off putting to any young woman. and we know that don't we because we can still remember being young women and know what puts them off.
Helena if you mean my comments,concerning the fact,that society seems to think that it's no big deal and ok for a single bloke of my age,to go after another bloke's wife just so long as she's the same age or older,but if I went for his teenaged single daughter that would be considered as totally out of order probably even by her father too who'd probably be more upset about that than if I'd have gone for his wife instead LOL ?.
Or my comments concerning the way in which society seems to think that if his daughter does decide to go for a much older bloke then it's probably more likely,and considered more acceptable by society,if that bloke is already married or has dumped an ex than to give a single bloke like me a chance ?.
I wouldn't say that was whinging or being rude or inconsiderate in any way to litenbrite and if it doesn't get me any votes among the young single girls who don't see it my way then I don't think I'll have lost anything.
It's ironic though that in addition to having to compete with married/seperated/divorced blokes,many of who have run out on their same age marriages for a much younger woman,it seems like I've also got to compete with blokes like Ashton Kutcher who've decided to run out on their OW/YM marriages because they've changed their minds.LOL.
Helena if you mean my comments,concerning the fact,that society seems to think that it's no big deal and ok for a single bloke of my age,to go after another bloke's wife just so long as she's the same age or older,but if I went for his teenaged single daughter that would be considered as totally out of order probably even by her father too who'd probably be more upset about that than if I'd have gone for his wife instead LOL ?.
Or my comments concerning the way in which society seems to think that if his daughter does decide to go for a much older bloke then it's probably more likely,and considered more acceptable by society,if that bloke is already married or has dumped an ex than to give a single bloke like me a chance ?.
I wouldn't say that was whinging or being rude or inconsiderate in any way to litenbrite and if it doesn't get me any votes among the young single girls who don't see it my way then I don't think I'll have lost anything.
It's ironic though that in addition to having to compete with married/seperated/divorced blokes,many of who have run out on their same age marriages for a much younger woman,it seems like I've also got to compete with blokes like Ashton Kutcher who've decided to run out on their OW/YM marriages because they've changed their minds.LOL.
comments nice or not LTB, did they actually pertain to the blog in question or was it the usual whinging that this middle-aged man wants a very young woman? If no one has come his way then he has to look at himself and his approach. He is very rude and inconsiderate of most of us and that will not win him votes in the category he seeks. Be safe
comments nice or not LTB, did they actually pertain to the blog in question or was it the usual whinging that this middle-aged man wants a very young woman? If no one has come his way then he has to look at himself and his approach. He is very rude and inconsiderate of most of us and that will not win him votes in the category he seeks. Be safe
The question is? how can we encourage so many of the overseas people and local people to write on the blogs? I chatted with some wonderful intellectual women from Sweden in the past and I just wish they and my multi-national friends would say what they think too. It makes it all so much more meaninful.
If you (as a contributor) prefer only local contributors to you; we understand but so many of you have really good English and we would like to hear from you publicly.
The question is? how can we encourage so many of the overseas people and local people to write on the blogs? I chatted with some wonderful intellectual women from Sweden in the past and I just wish they and my multi-national friends would say what they think too. It makes it all so much more meaninful.
If you (as a contributor) prefer only local contributors to you; we understand but so many of you have really good English and we would like to hear from you publicly.
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