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Posted on Dec 12, 2011 at 08:49 AM

A friend just sent me a link to ABC News chronicling a 25-year-old woman in Manhattan who proudly states that she accepts men's dinner dates, even if she's not attracted to them. She was provided over $1200.00 in free meals over a 1-month persiod. So this is just a little reminder to all the guys out there why paying for dinner (especially on a first date!) is a bad idea. CAUTION: there are more women than you think who WILL date you for a free meal! An ideal first date: Short and sweet and cheap and local NO food--drink(s) only. 1 hour max. 2 drinks, max. If a woman truly likes you, she won't care about fancy dinners (right ladies?) When you invite her out, be clear: "How about joining me for a DRINK this Wed. at the Rusty Pelican at 8?" If the waiter brings food menus and starts talking about today's specials, don't be afraid to say (right in front of your date): "We're just gonna be having a drink or two tonight. Thanks." Remember guys: As the man, YOU are expected to risk rejection and approach her, get her number, and invite her on a date. As the initiator, THE MAN chooses the date activity. She just has to show up. She either chooses to comply to your agenda--or she doesn't. it's best to never be dependent on just one woman for dates; create options so that you'll never allow her to dictate. YOU lead, and if she wants to spend time with YOU, she will follow.

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Posted on Feb 05, 2012 at 07:27 PM

HPD I re-read you comment to me some time later and whilst I agreed, I have to add it can be applicable just as well to females.  sometimes it almost seems like we keep making statements about the people we actually are rather than those we would like to meet.

 Gig, prefiero cafe con hombre por favor.


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Posted on Jan 12, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Quoting litenbrite:

Gig, Sweetheart....I would buy you a coffee anytime. Lol!



Hmmmmm? Meet me in Miami in February and we'll enjoy a nice Cafe con Leche and spend all the time we want chatting about the ways of the world... That would be nice.

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Posted on Jan 10, 2012 at 07:09 AM

oh Dear!!


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Posted on Dec 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Quoting helena2006:

HPD Merry Christmas and I love that you have got some people to respond here on this site.  I know you speak a lot of sexist bs but on the other hand you always have someone who will respond.  GD they always do.  Sometimes I wish the bimbos would shut up but bimbos, stupid as they are, have as much right to vent as I do.  So in the same breath, Merry Christmas HPD and to all bimbos who respond to your vents, happy christmas


Thanks Dearest Helena. Happy New year to you, darling. I truly believe that it's a GOOD thing to evoke strong reactions from women, even if they hate you! I think that the man who is courageous enough to be his own true self is often hated by women but has much more sex than the cowardly man who walks on eggshells and never risks offending women.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2011 at 12:10 PM

HPD, Plese scroll down and you will see your own comment about Men stupidly in your opinion, Marries the women.


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Posted on Dec 24, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Moondancer you are so right.  I laughed my head off but then I have sparred with HPD for years and I simply do not believe half of what he says.


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Posted on Dec 22, 2011 at 11:23 PM

HPD Merry Christmas and I love that you have got some people to respond here on this site.  I know you speak a lot of sexist bs but on the other hand you always have someone who will respond.  GD they always do.  Sometimes I wish the bimbos would shut up but bimbos, stupid as they are, have as much right to vent as I do.  So in the same breath, Merry Christmas HPD and to all bimbos who respond to your vents, happy christmas


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Posted on Dec 22, 2011 at 01:05 AM

from reading ALL you say, "YOU'RE DEFINITELY A NARCISSISTIC PRICK!!!!!" ....... AND ACTUALLY HUMOROUSLY PATHETIC!!!!!! (WHAT MAKES U THINK UR SO "HOT"??????) hehe ... L.L.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2011 at 07:46 AM

Quoting litenbrite:

HPD, So what are you saying here? that all men are really stupid and are fooled into relationships? by all these controling women. I have far more respect for Male intelligence than that. Some of us do not want to get Married but just want to love someone and be loved back. and if alot of Men were honest they would admit that they would like that too. It seems that the men that are in relationships with good women that they get on with, are really much happier than the men that are continualy out there dating and spending all there money on unstable women with the hope of MAYBE having inferior sex on the odd occasion. And as for control....no need for it when each of you respect each other enough to give and take. But its different Strokes for different blokes. Dating is obviously your choice because you want variety. Just admit it Darling and get on with it, and some Women want that too, Ask yourself why you attract the ones that like useing Men, Remember Like attracts like. If you change your intention maybe the outcome to your dates would get better.:))


Dearest Litenbrite: Below I copied-and-pasted Rock journalist Lizzie James' interview with Doors lead singer Jim Morrison. I think his quotes are spot-on about society and people preferring to be controlled. Lizzie James: I think fans of The Doors see you as a savior, the leader who'll set them all free. How do you feel about that? It's kind of a heavy burden, isn't it? Jim Morrison: It's absurd. How can I set free anyone who doesn't have the guts to stand up alone and declare his own freedom? I think it's a lie--people claim they want to be free--everybody insists that freedom is what they want the most, the most sacred and precious thing a man can possess. But that's bullshit! People are terrified to be set free-they hold on to their chains. They fight anyone who tries to break those chains. It's their security....How can they expect me or anyone to set them free if they don't really want to be free? Lizzie: Why do you think people fear freedom? Jim: I think people resist freedom because they're afraid of the unknown. But it's ironic ... That unknown was once very well known. It's where our souls belong ... The only solution is to confront them -- confront yourself -- with the greatest fear imaginable. Expose yourself to your deepest fear. After that, fear has no power, and fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free. Lizzie: What do mean when you say "freedom"? Jim: There are different kinds of freedom -- there's a lot of misunderstanding ... The most important kind of freedom is to be what you really are. You trade in your reality for a role. You trade in your senses for an act. You give up your ability to feel and in exchange, put on a mask. There can't be any large-scale revolution until there's a personal revolution, on an individual level. It's got to happen inside first. You can take away a man's political freedom and you won't hurt him -- unless you take away his freedom to feel. That can destroy him. Lizzie: But how can anyone else have the power to take away from your freedom to feel? Jim: Some people surrender their freedom willingly--but others are are forced to surrender it. Imprisonment begins with birth. Society, parents; they refuse to allow you to keep the freedom you are born with. There are subtle ways to punish a person for daring to feel. You see that everyone around you has destroyed his true feeling nature. You imitate what you see. Lizzie: Are you saying that we are, in effect, brought up to defend and perpetuate a society that deprives people of the freedom to feel? Jim: Sure ... teachers,religious leaders-even friends, or so-called friends -- take over where the parents leave off. They demand that we feel the only feelings they want and expect from us. They demand all the time that we perform feelings for them. We're like actors-turned loose in this world to wander in search of a phantom ... endlessly searching for a half-forgotten shadow of our lost reality. When others demand that we become the people they want us to be, they force us to destroy the person we really are. It's a subtle kind of murder ... the most loving parents and relatives commit this murder with smiles on their faces. Lizzie: Do you think it's possible for an individual to free himself from these repressive forces on his own -- all alone? Jim: That kind of freedom can't be granted. Nobody can win it for you. You have to do it on your own. If you look to somebody else to do it for you -- somebody outside yourself -- you're still depending on others. You're still vulnerable to those repressive,evil outside forces, too. Lizzie: But isn't it possible for people who want that freedom to unite -- to combine their strength, maybe just to strengthen each other? It must be possible. Jim: Friends can help each other. A true friend is someone who lets you have total freedom to be yourself-and especially to feel. Or not feel. Whatever you happen to be feeling at the moment is fine with them. That's what real love amounts to -- letting a person be what he really is ... Most people love you for who you pretend to be ... To keep their love, you keep pretending -- performing. You get to love your pretense ... It's true, we're locked in an image, an act -- and the sad thing is, people get so used to their image -- they grow attached to their masks. They love their chains. They forgot all about who they really are. And if you try to remind them, they hate you for it -- they feel like you're trying to steal their most precious possession. Lizzie: It's ironic -- it's sad. Can't they see that what you're trying to show them is the way to freedom? Jim: Most people have no idea what they're missing. Or society places a supreme value on control -- hiding what you feel. Our culture mocks "primitive cultures" and prides itself on supression of natural instincts and impulses.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2011 at 07:34 AM

Quoting litenbrite:

HPD, So what are you saying here? that all men are really stupid and are fooled into relationships? by all these controling women. I have far more respect for Male intelligence than that. Some of us do not want to get Married but just want to love someone and be loved back. and if alot of Men were honest they would admit that they would like that too. It seems that the men that are in relationships with good women that they get on with, are really much happier than the men that are continualy out there dating and spending all there money on unstable women with the hope of MAYBE having inferior sex on the odd occasion. And as for control....no need for it when each of you respect each other enough to give and take. But its different Strokes for different blokes. Dating is obviously your choice because you want variety. Just admit it Darling and get on with it, and some Women want that too, Ask yourself why you attract the ones that like useing Men, Remember Like attracts like. If you change your intention maybe the outcome to your dates would get better.:))


Dearest Litenbrite: My posts convey absolutely nothing about men being stupid. That's your opinion only. However, in my opinion, there are very few men (and women!) who actually prefer to think for themselves. They actually WANT to be controlled because it's easier that way! Individuality is too heavy a price for most people to pay. Most people say that they want freedom, but really, I think it's bull. I truly believe that most men & women WANT to be controlled. And in my opinion, childhood, relationships and career are contingent upon control. During chilhood we're controlled by our parents (especially the mother). They punish us by repressing our true self, and they reward us for donning the mask of conformity. This subtle form of control is administered by our parents and teachers (and later on, our spouses and bosses) to gain societal acceptance. Society controls and commits a subtle kind of murder with smiles on their faces, for the most significant people in our lives actually control us by killing our inner individual soul.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2011 at 02:17 AM

HPD, So what are you saying here? that all men are really stupid and are fooled into relationships? by all these controling women. I have far more respect for Male intelligence than that. Some of us do not want to get Married but just want to love someone and be loved back. and if alot of Men were honest they would admit that they would like that too. It seems that the men that are in relationships with good women that they get on with, are really much happier than the men that are continualy out there dating and spending all there money on unstable women with the hope of MAYBE having inferior sex on the odd occasion. And as for control....no need for it when each of you respect each other enough to give and take. But its different Strokes for different blokes. Dating is obviously your choice because you want variety. Just admit it Darling and get on with it, and some Women want that too, Ask yourself why you attract the ones that like useing Men, Remember Like attracts like. If you change your intention maybe the outcome to your dates would get better.:))


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Posted on Dec 15, 2011 at 09:26 AM

Litenbrite you're right again.But stereotyping is often applied just as much by women against blokes as in that example related to that old as the hills thing which many girls have in thinking that the offer of a drink always comes with 'conditions' attatched. As I said it's just as likely that if a girl is the real type of scheming witch (lol) that HPD would really need to be worried about,then it's likely that she'd take on HPD's rules anyway just to get her hands on all his money later (LOL) than the type of girl who's more likely to want ( and deserve ) to be wined and dined properly in the old fashioned way.

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Posted on Dec 15, 2011 at 07:06 AM

Quoting litenbrite:

HPD, Please don't tar us all with the same brush, I have offered to pay for my own coffee. Lol!   I know there are some Women that are quite bad like that, But we really are not all the same. What about the men that buy a lady a drink and then think they are hard done by because she will not take him home to have sex? Or the younger men that thinks because you are a mature woman that your gagging to give them phone sex. If a Man respects me, I respect him back. I honestly can't understand how you are attracting all these Gold Diggers....Could it be that you push against something so much...you end up attracting it.       ​        ​        ​        ​        ​        ​    And if I ever come up to Tampa.....I will treat you to a Starbucks....Just to make up for all the bad nasty women you have been hooking up with lately!!!  I hope you like my wicked old Witch picture...I am really trying to look scary! [I wasnt wearing make up and giving my nastiest look]



Dearest Litenbrite: MOST women (and for you, I'm gonna refrain from writing ALL women--even though I tend to believe that ALL women expect to be bought, at least in the early phases of dating) simply know that their power exists in controlling the man--this control includes making the man pay and denying him sex. No matter how you slice it, the woman wins. If she has sex on the first date, she should feel good about it! Sex is pleasurable! But society has programmed men and women that sex before marraige is BAAAD. Whatever. Sex is all about control. The women have control early on. Then they succumb to the man's charm. Then the men take control. Then the man (stupidly, in my opinion) offers to marry her. And the woman controls him for the rest of his life.

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Posted on Dec 15, 2011 at 06:53 AM

Quoting ArlingtonTexan:

HotProDude...you are totally right.  there are a few exceptions out there among the young ladies, but they just prove the rule.  drinks only first date are a MUST...or just coffee.  if the young lady is areally inerested and not just a golddigging slut, she will be fine with it.  i actially had one girl once that offered to pay for half the drink bill.  i was very impressed.


Here's the kicker, though, Arlington: why should a guy act IMPRESSED when a girl offers to pay for her own food/drink? of course, if you let her pay (even if it's just for half), her friends and family are gonna label you a misogynist. "Oh my god, how could you make our poor defenseless beautiful girl PAY??!!!" And I'm not talking about the women family and friends--the men will object, too! LOL When a women offers to pay (even if it's just for her half), she's "liberated." When a woman doesn't offer to pay, she's "traditional." So the old-school dating method is a win-win situation for women. Dating is perfect for women because it allows a them to feign liberation and traditionalism. Not paying for her own dinners...denying the man sex...expecting the guy to arrange for the date, etc. etc. are all ways that she shrwedly maintains control while feigning traditonalism. But if she actually offers to pay (and it's usually just for half) for dinner or to have sex with the guy on the first night she meets him, then suddenly she's admired for being a "modern woman." Basically, all a woman has to do is show up for the date and decide if she likes the man. She can do no wrong. If she doesn't like him, at least she gets a free meal and ego validation. But if she does indicate that she likes him, she plays the "traditional" role and lets him kiss her cheek. And, the man is expected to continue "being the man" by inviting her out AGAIN for dinner and repeating the whole process.

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Posted on Dec 15, 2011 at 06:29 AM

Quoting jag6000:

Which just proves that there is such a thing as a free lunch.LOL. But it's also possible to find women who'll go along with the idea of accepting a cheap date and then who'll even marry a bloke at some point even though they aren't attracted just to get their hands on half of what he owns when she dumps him and files for divorce. The chances are that if you're middle aged and can find a girl who's single and in her teens and she's still interested when you tell her that you're just an ordinary working class bloke,with just an ordinary amount in the bank,and you don't own a house that's paid for,but you want to treat her to a free meal and she then accepts then she's probably going to be a good one.


Jag, if I ever skip across the Big Pond, I'm gonna shake your hand buy you a Guinness, Mate.

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Posted on Dec 14, 2011 at 06:04 PM

Quoting Gig0lo:

What a country...


Gig, Sweetheart....I would buy you a coffee anytime. Lol!


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Posted on Dec 14, 2011 at 05:44 PM

HPD, Please don't tar us all with the same brush, I have offered to pay for my own coffee. Lol!   I know there are some Women that are quite bad like that, But we really are not all the same. What about the men that buy a lady a drink and then think they are hard done by because she will not take him home to have sex? Or the younger men that thinks because you are a mature woman that your gagging to give them phone sex. If a Man respects me, I respect him back. I honestly can't understand how you are attracting all these Gold Diggers....Could it be that you push against something so much...you end up attracting it.       ​        ​        ​        ​        ​        ​    And if I ever come up to Tampa.....I will treat you to a Starbucks....Just to make up for all the bad nasty women you have been hooking up with lately!!!  I hope you like my wicked old Witch picture...I am really trying to look scary! [I wasnt wearing make up and giving my nastiest look]


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Posted on Dec 14, 2011 at 06:58 AM

HotProDude...you are totally right.  there are a few exceptions out there among the young ladies, but they just prove the rule.  drinks only first date are a MUST...or just coffee.  if the young lady is areally inerested and not just a golddigging slut, she will be fine with it.  i actially had one girl once that offered to pay for half the drink bill.  i was very impressed.


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Posted on Dec 14, 2011 at 01:52 AM

Which just proves that there is such a thing as a free lunch.LOL. But it's also possible to find women who'll go along with the idea of accepting a cheap date and then who'll even marry a bloke at some point even though they aren't attracted just to get their hands on half of what he owns when she dumps him and files for divorce. The chances are that if you're middle aged and can find a girl who's single and in her teens and she's still interested when you tell her that you're just an ordinary working class bloke,with just an ordinary amount in the bank,and you don't own a house that's paid for,but you want to treat her to a free meal and she then accepts then she's probably going to be a good one.

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